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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 08:40 AM UTC
just placed on, and wood grain isn't very obvious but have added the wooden "riser" to the rear. Just the cushions to do then it can be sent to the paint shop - doors are also in progress











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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 06:34 PM UTC
Nice work, can you explain the logic for the wooden 'riser'?
If you are as OCD as I am, are you following a specific example?
robw_uk
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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 07:02 PM UTC

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Nice work, can you explain the logic for the wooden 'riser'?
If you are as OCD as I am, are you following a specific example?



i assume just gives more space.... and do like to follow examples.. mthe one for this is

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t15/sjung_bucket/M4HST_2_zpsq7jcg4ko.jpg
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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 02:02 AM UTC
Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?
robw_uk
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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 03:33 AM UTC

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Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?



am going with "if it was done post-war why not done during the war"... and yes I think anything carrying ammo in such a flimsy compartment is unsafe...

I really must be bonkers... well 6 doors done... and boy are they thinner than the plastic kits. I will fold them all open so should look OK... this was 2x two-ply tissue and then clear freezer bag for the windows....







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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 03:36 AM UTC

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Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?



There was nothing preventing the crew from putting a bottom on the bin, or using it only to store tarps, packs, and bedrolls.

KL
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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 03:43 AM UTC

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Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?



There was nothing preventing the crew from putting a bottom on the bin, or using it only to store tarps, packs, and bedrolls.

KL



i wondered if the wood parts had a bottom but if it does it would be inside the sides and to me tat would be wrong (ie you would put the sides so that they sat on top of the floor). I think it would allow boxes & tarps/camo net/packs to be stacked deeper than normal...
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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 07:01 PM UTC

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Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?



There was nothing preventing the crew from putting a bottom on the bin, or using it only to store tarps, packs, and bedrolls.

KL



i wondered if the wood parts had a bottom but if it does it would be inside the sides and to me tat would be wrong (ie you would put the sides so that they sat on top of the floor). I think it would allow boxes & tarps/camo net/packs to be stacked deeper than normal...



I have the 155mm version of this kit, where the rounds are stored vertically, with a top collar, like a wine-rack to prevent movement whilst in transit, & the hoist (would be) used to handle the rounds.

How does the instructions show the rounds stowage for the 90mm's?

You have photo evidence for the top box, so all (OCD) good
And someone will find more empirical photos.... just after you finish your build!

Excellent work on the doors as well!
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Posted: Saturday, September 19, 2020 - 07:38 PM UTC

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Interesting post-war(1956 dated photo)? example.

The M3 rounds were about 42lb (19kg), so wouldn't want to ride in a vehicle where rounds were laid loose on top of other rounds & unsecured?



There was nothing preventing the crew from putting a bottom on the bin, or using it only to store tarps, packs, and bedrolls.

KL



i wondered if the wood parts had a bottom but if it does it would be inside the sides and to me tat would be wrong (ie you would put the sides so that they sat on top of the floor). I think it would allow boxes & tarps/camo net/packs to be stacked deeper than normal...



I have the 155mm version of this kit, where the rounds are stored vertically, with a top collar, like a wine-rack to prevent movement whilst in transit, & the hoist (would be) used to handle the rounds.

How does the instructions show the rounds stowage for the 90mm's?

You have photo evidence for the top box, so all (OCD) good
And someone will find more empirical photos.... just after you finish your build!

Excellent work on the doors as well!



nothing in this kit for rounds storage, lower half of storage is empty
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Posted: Sunday, September 20, 2020 - 03:48 AM UTC
today's soft furnishing work was cushions. Kit ones were just boring plastic whereas in real life the seat pads were stuffed with blankets etc. This leads to a more "random" arrangement which I have tried to convey. Do need to add seatbelts as well but this now means this can go to the paintshop (might get to prime her next weekend)



















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Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 04:30 AM UTC
no photos but build done... I might get time to prime it over the weekend if I am lucky (son off to Uni Thursday so will need to gauge the mood in the house before modelling)
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 12:19 AM UTC
Nice progress, Rob.
On page 42 of Stansell/Doyle "High Sped Tractor (revised ed.)", the "riser" has two wooden "legs" at its rear corners, outside of and reaching down below the light cages. I've no idea as to their function.

And a question: Kit part C53, a little box that is to go into the top rear corner of the cab's left side - might that be a first aid kit? I can't find a photo that would allow identification, but would like to mark it appropriately, to bring some color into the area. Anyone better informed than me?
Peter
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 01:10 AM UTC

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Nice progress, Rob.
On page 42 of Stansell/Doyle "High Sped Tractor (revised ed.)", the "riser" has two wooden "legs" at its rear corners, outside of and reaching down below the light cages. I've no idea as to their function.

And a question: Kit part C53, a little box that is to go into the top rear corner of the cab's left side - might that be a first aid kit? I can't find a photo that would allow identification, but would like to mark it appropriately, to bring some color into the area. Anyone better informed than me?
Peter



Peter, Yeah I saw the "legs" on the outside of the "rise" - I need to add that - I assume it adds stability to the riser.

As to the internal box - not sure to be honest, I will see if I can find anything on all the reference sites I have
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 01:17 AM UTC

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Nice progress, Rob.
On page 42 of Stansell/Doyle "High Sped Tractor (revised ed.)", the "riser" has two wooden "legs" at its rear corners, outside of and reaching down below the light cages. I've no idea as to their function.

And a question: Kit part C53, a little box that is to go into the top rear corner of the cab's left side - might that be a first aid kit? I can't find a photo that would allow identification, but would like to mark it appropriately, to bring some color into the area. Anyone better informed than me?
Peter



halfway down this build it is just green... but will continue to dig

https://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=192836&ord=&page=2
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 01:21 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Nice progress, Rob.
On page 42 of Stansell/Doyle "High Sped Tractor (revised ed.)", the "riser" has two wooden "legs" at its rear corners, outside of and reaching down below the light cages. I've no idea as to their function.

And a question: Kit part C53, a little box that is to go into the top rear corner of the cab's left side - might that be a first aid kit? I can't find a photo that would allow identification, but would like to mark it appropriately, to bring some color into the area. Anyone better informed than me?
Peter



first aid kit but painted OD... BUT more interesting, quilted roof liner... think some kitchen towel glued in may do thr trick

https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/8196-1944-m4-high-speed-tractors/page/5/
robw_uk
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 04:31 AM UTC
couldn't get the roof liner "quilted" - will go with painting it tyre black (assuming the one in the build shared above didn't then get painted OD, but doubt it as that would be a waste of paint)

thanks all.. .NOW the build is complete (well apart from probably having to source replacement tracks - HobbyBoss ones just woot stick with anything (even heat!) - may have to resort to a staple!!!!



anyway, done some titivation this afternoon (better securing of the spare wheel, external support for the additional height at the rear and stowage (combination of Value Gear, Redog and AFV fuel cans). it does come out and is in 2 halves to allow for easier painting. 















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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2020 - 02:24 AM UTC
it has gone grey - seem to have lost a "cushion" which I will either find or make a new one later



















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Posted: Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 03:08 AM UTC
green on - not 100% happy with the very dark on the bottom so may give it a quick blast of the olive drab base (pain is AK Interactive modulation set)... will be doing internal detailing next then it can be buttoned up... Wood is painted MiG old wood as a pale base to allow darker staining on top...



















robw_uk
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Posted: Saturday, October 03, 2020 - 04:19 AM UTC
more progress on wood/stowage and cushoins/interior







































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Posted: Monday, October 05, 2020 - 01:30 AM UTC
Hi Rob,
that really looks good, I like your build very much.
As mentioned before, I have the same kit on the bench, but am a notoriously slow, nit-picking builder. Hence, a question to you and all:
At the bottom of the radiator housing, there are five hose couplings. Mike Koenig explains them in his Mack NO build report
mentioned above and mentions that the centrally mounted water hose isn't present in the photo he shows there. I know that the other four hoses are attached parallel along the fuel tank's side towards the vehicle front - but where does the missing water hose come from/go to? It obviously is the continuation of part B29 on the opposite side and front of the engine, but how does it bridge the gap over to the radiator's bottom? Are there any clamps or supports, or does it just hang free?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
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Posted: Monday, October 05, 2020 - 01:36 AM UTC
Again, those seat pads just tossed willy nilly look GERAT!
Very realistic for this vehicle.
robw_uk
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Posted: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 06:08 AM UTC
Slowly building up - engine and radiator in, winch fitted. Need to touch up (and paint missed parts) then I think I will button it all up 























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Posted: Sunday, October 25, 2020 - 05:30 AM UTC
this is now continued on the new forum: https://forums.kitmaker.net/t/hobby-boss-1-35-m4-high-speed-tractor/1163